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* GNU Octave might apply for [https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs Google Season of Docs (GSoD)] in 2023Examples of successful projects from other organizations can be found at:
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== Existing Documentation ==
== Existing Documentation ==
:''For a comprehensive list see [[Publications about Octave]].''
:''For a comprehensive list see [[Publications about Octave]].''


* [https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ Texinfo] user / developer documentation for the [https://octave.org/doc/interpreter/ Octave interpreter].
* [https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ Texinfo] user documentation for the [https://octave.org/doc/interpreter/ Octave interpreter].


* [[Doxygen]] documentation for the internal C++ classes and external API.
* [[Doxygen]] documentation for the internal C++ classes and external API.
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'''Description'''
'''Description'''


The documentation for the interpreter is presumably the oldest, long grown documentation of the GNU Octave project.  It is mostly written in [https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ Texinfo] and strongly interleaved in the [[Building | Octave build process]], i.e., it is necessary to build Octave from source to generate included figures.  Additionally, large portions of the Texinfo source are auto generated to stay close to the source code and to avoid stale documentation.  A special type of this auto generation are the so-called [[Help text | "docstrings"]], which are extracted from both C++ files and Octave's own script files (m-files).  
The documentation for the interpreter is presumably the oldest, long grown documentation of the GNU Octave project.  It is mostly written in [https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ Texinfo] and strongly interleaved in the [[Building | Octave build process]], i.e., it is necessary to build Octave from source to generate included figures.  Additionally, large portions of the Texinfo source are auto generated to stay close to the source code to avoid stale documentation.  A special type of this auto generation are the so-called [[Help text | "docstrings"]], which are extracted from both C++ files and Octave's own script files (m-files).  


The resulting Texinfo sources are translated to Info, PDF, PostScript, and HTML, whereas the HTML is further processed to match the [https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qthelp-framework.html QT Help Framework], which is displayed in the Octave GUI.
The resulting Texinfo sources are translated to Info, PDF, PostScript, and HTML, whereas the HTML is further processed to match the [https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qthelp-framework.html QT Help Framework], which is displayed in Octave.


'''Improvements'''
'''Improvements'''


* Easy but long task: Every function description should mention the output variable if there is one. See bug {{bug|61681}} and [[#Working list of functions needing output variables]] below.
* Check for inconsistencies in the manual, e.g., outdated descriptions, awkwardly ordered information, ...
* Check for inconsistencies in the manual, e.g., outdated descriptions, awkwardly ordered information, ...
* More examples and demo files for using each Octave command.
* More examples and demo files for using each Octave command.
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'''Long term goals / highly controversial within the community'''
'''Long term goals / highly controversial within the community'''


* Syntax, structure, and source-code readability of Texinfo is a burden for some developers and newcomers.  In short it is no "fun" editing those.  Consider replacement by
* Syntax, structure, and readability of Texinfo is a burden for some developers and newcomers.  Consider replacement by
** [https://commonmark.org/ CommonMark/Markdown]
** [https://commonmark.org/ CommonMark/Markdown]
** [https://docutils.readthedocs.io/en/sphinx-docs/user/rst/quickstart.html reStructuredText] / [https://www.sphinx-doc.org/ Sphinx]
** [https://docutils.readthedocs.io/en/sphinx-docs/user/rst/quickstart.html reStructuredText] / [https://www.sphinx-doc.org/ Sphinx]
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=== Octave's internal documentation ===
=== Octave's internal documentation ===


'''Description'''
[https://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/e16080e36cf9 Since 2013], Octave makes use of [http://www.doxygen.nl/ Doxygen] for it's internal documentation.  Ever since, there has been moderate effort to add Doxygen comments to the entire code base or to create verbose descriptions for key techniques about how Octave works (here an example for [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/df/d4d/Macros.html important Octave macros]).  Potential reasons for this circumstance are:
 
[https://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/e16080e36cf9 Since 2013], Octave makes use of [http://www.doxygen.nl/ Doxygen], and [https://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/tip/etc/HACKING.md <code>etc/HACKING.md</code>] for its internal documentation.  There has been only moderate effort to add Doxygen comments to the entire code base or to create verbose descriptions for key techniques about how Octave works (here an example for [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/df/d4d/Macros.html important Octave macros]).  Potential reasons for this circumstance are:
# Lack of developer knowledge (code grew over 25 years), many "cryptic" macros, very complex class inheritance trees:
# Lack of developer knowledge (code grew over 25 years), many "cryptic" macros, very complex class inheritance trees:
#* [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/d0/d26/classArray.html <code>liboctave/Array</code>]
#* [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/d0/d26/classArray.html <code>liboctave/Array</code>]
#* [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/d6/d68/classoctave__base__value.html <code>libinterp/octave_base_value</code>]
#* [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/d6/d68/classoctave__base__value.html <code>libinterp/octave_base_value</code>]
# long Doxygen build time to see results of documentation effort
# long build time to see results of documentation effort
# huge size (about 2 GB), very impractical to "carry around", [https://octave.org/doxygen] slowly responding
# huge size (about 2 GB), very impractical to "carry around", https://octave.org/doxygen slowly responding


Nevertheless, there is a need for internal documentation:
Nevertheless, there is a need for internal documentation:
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# Avoid knowledge drain ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor bus factor]).
# Avoid knowledge drain ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor bus factor]).


'''Improvements'''
As Octave's GUI makes use of qt, Doxygen might also be replaced by [https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qdoc-index.html QDoc] with comparable markup.
 
* The internal documentation should cover the following topics (a more verbose extension of [https://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/tip/etc/HACKING.md <code>etc/HACKING.md</code>] [https://octave.org/doxygen/5.2/d1/d10/Hacking.html (html)]):
** Overview about the code base (liboctave, libinterp, libgui, ...).
** How Octave is built (necessary tools [versions], involved scripts, ...).
** The release procedure, e.g. [[6.1 Release Checklist]].
* Make the internal documentation '''obvious, easy to study and to extend, avoid effort duplication'''.
** The internal documentation should not be fixed on Doxygen comments only.
** As Octave's GUI makes use of qt, Doxygen might also be replaced by [https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qdoc-index.html QDoc] with comparable markup.
** Splitting the documentation into a wiki portion, etc., is imaginable, but it must be clearly documented where to find which information, '''avoid duplication''', nobody wants to update information in more than one location.
* Technical goals are:
** Smaller memory footprint for individual documents (unlike current Doxygen with about 2 GB).
** Fast build time.
** Lightweight (existing) documentation system. No heavy preprocessing / code generation by custom scripts.
** As close to the source as necessary.  Make it difficult to update the code while not updating its documentation.  E.g. no wiki documentation for Octave's C++ files.


'''Resources'''
'''Resources'''
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: [[User:siko1056 | Kai]]
: [[User:siko1056 | Kai]]


==Appendix==
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[[Category:Project Ideas]]
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