# FAQ

This is a list of frequently asked questions (FAQ) for GNU Octave users.

We are always looking for new questions (with answers), better answers, or both. Feel free to edit this page with your changes. If you have general questions about GNU Octave, or need help for something that is not covered by the Octave manual or the FAQ, please use the help@octave.org mailing list.

This FAQ is intended to supplement, not replace, the GNU Octave manual. Before posting a question to the help@octave.org mailing list, you should first check to see if the topic is covered in the manual.

## Contents

- 1 General
- 1.1 What is Octave?
- 1.2 What is Octave-Forge?
- 1.3 Who uses Octave?
- 1.4 Who develops Octave?
- 1.5 Why "Octave"?
- 1.6 Why GNU Octave?
- 1.7 What version should I use?
- 1.8 On what platforms does Octave run?
- 1.9 Why are the developers planning to replace Gnuplot with an OpenGL backend?
- 1.10 How can I cite Octave?
- 1.11 When will feature X be released or implemented?
- 1.12 How can I get involved in Octave development?

- 2 Licensing issues
- 2.1 If I write code using Octave do I have to release it under the GPL?
- 2.2 Since the MEX interface allows plugins to be distributed under terms that are incompatible with the GPL, does this mean that you are encouraging people to write non-free software for Octave?
- 2.3 I wrote a program that links with Octave libraries and I don't want to release it under the terms of the GPL. Will you change the license of the Octave libraries for me?
- 2.4 Why can't I use code from File Exchange in Octave? It's released under a BSD license!

- 3 What's new in Octave
- 4 What documentation exists for Octave?
- 5 How can I obtain Octave?
- 6 Installation issues and problems
- 7 Coding
- 7.1 What features are unique to Octave?
- 7.1.1 Functions defined on the command-line
- 7.1.2 Comments with #
- 7.1.3 Strings delimited by double quotes "
- 7.1.4 Line continuation by backslash
- 7.1.5 Informative block closing
- 7.1.6 Coherent syntax
- 7.1.7 Exclamation mark as not operator
- 7.1.8 Increment and decrement operators
- 7.1.9 Unwind-protect
- 7.1.10 Built-in ODE and DAE solvers
- 7.1.11 Do-Until loop structure

- 7.2 How does Octave solve linear systems?

- 7.1 What features are unique to Octave?
- 8 How do I...?
- 8.1 How do I execute an Octave script?
- 8.2 do xxxx?
- 8.3 How do I erase a figure?
- 8.4 How do I set the number of displayed decimals?
- 8.5 How do I call an octave function from C++?
- 8.6 How do I change colour/line definition in gnuplot postscript?
- 8.7 How do I tell if a file exists?
- 8.8 How do I create a plot without a window popping up (ie, a plot to a file)?
- 8.9 How do I make Octave use more precision?

- 9 Common problems
- 9.1 I am running a script that should produce output during execution but I don't see anything until it has finished
- 9.2 When I try plotting from a script, why am I not seeing anything?
- 9.3 How do I get sound input or output in Windows?
- 9.4 I cannot install a package. Octave complains about a missing mkoctfile.
- 9.5 I'm having problem XXX using the latest Octave version
- 9.6 Why is this floating point computation wrong?
- 9.7 I have installed a package but still get a "foo undefined" error
- 9.8 Missing lines when printing under Windows with OpenGL toolkit and Intel integrated GPU

- 10 Porting programs from Matlab to Octave
- 10.1 How is Octave different from Matlab?
- 10.1.1 Nested Functions
- 10.1.2 Differences in core syntax
- 10.1.3 Differences in core functions
- 10.1.4 Just-In-Time compiler
- 10.1.5 Compiler
- 10.1.6 Graphic handles
- 10.1.7 GUI functions
- 10.1.8 Simulink
- 10.1.9 MEX-Files
- 10.1.10 Block comments
- 10.1.11 Mat-File format
- 10.1.12 Profiler
- 10.1.13 Toolboxes
- 10.1.14 Short-circuit & and | operators
- 10.1.15 Solvers for singular, under- and over-determined matrices
- 10.1.16 Octave extensions

- 10.1 How is Octave different from Matlab?
- 11 GUI

# General[edit]

## What is Octave?[edit]

GNU Octave is a high-level interactive language, primarily intended for numerical computations, that is mostly compatible with Matlab.

GNU Octave can do arithmetic for real, complex or integer-valued scalars and matrices, solve sets of nonlinear algebraic equations, integrate functions over finite and infinite intervals, and integrate systems of ordinary differential and differential-algebraic equations.

GNU Octave uses the GNU readline library to handle reading and editing input. By default, the line editing commands are similar to the cursor movement commands used by GNU Emacs, and a vi-style line editing interface is also available. At the end of each session, the command history is saved, so that commands entered during previous sessions are not lost.

The GNU Octave distribution includes a 650+ page Texinfo manual. Access to the complete text of the manual is available via the doc command at the GNU Octave prompt.

## What is Octave-Forge?[edit]

Octave-Forge is a collection of packages for GNU Octave, something similar to the Matlab toolboxes. When talking about the two projects at the same time, GNU Octave is usually referred to as Octave core (or just *core*). Octave-Forge also serves as a test bed for code that may eventually end up in the core, and distributes binaries for systems with a lack of developers tools (mainly Windows).

## Who uses Octave?[edit]

Lots of people. It seems that universities use it for research and teaching, companies of all sizes, for development, individuals. This question comes often on Octave mailing lists, see Who Uses Octave? for a few answers

## Who develops Octave?[edit]

Discussions about writing the software that would eventually become Octave started in about 1988 with James B. Rawlings and John W. Eaton at the University of Texas. John W. Eaton was the original author of Octave, starting full-time development in February 1992. He is still the primary maintainer. The community of users/developers has in addition contributed some code and fuels the discussion on the mailing lists help@octave.org (user forum), maintainers@octave.org (development issues).

## Why "Octave"?[edit]

Octave's name has nothing to do with music. It's named after Octave Levenspiel, a former professor of John who was famous for his ability to do quick back-of-the-envelope calculations. You can hear John pronounce the name "Octave" a few times in this video. We hope that GNU Octave will help perform computations with the same ease as Dr. Levenspiel.

## Why *GNU* Octave?[edit]

The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to develop a complete Unix-like operating system which is free software: the GNU system.

GNU is a recursive acronym for “GNU's Not Unix”; it is pronounced guh-noo, approximately like canoe.

The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is the principal organizational sponsor of the GNU Project.

Octave became GNU Octave in 1997 (beginning with version 2.0.6). This meant agreeing to consider Octave a part of the GNU Project and support the efforts of the FSF. A big part of this effort is to adhere to the GNU coding standards and to benefit from GNU's infrastructure (e.g. code hosting and bug tracking). Additionally, Octave receives sponsorship from the FSF's Working Together fund. However, Octave is not and has never been developed by the FSF.

For more information about the GNU project, see http://www.gnu.org.

## What version should I use?[edit]

In general, you will find the latest version on http://www.octave.org/download.html. It is recommended to use the stable version of octave for general use, and the development version if you want the latest features and are willing to tolerate instability.

A list of user-visible changes since the last release is available in the file NEWS. The file ChangeLog in the source distribution contains a more detailed record of changes made since the last release.

## On what platforms does Octave run?[edit]

Octave runs on various Unices—at least Linux and Solaris, Mac OS X, Windows and anything you can compile it on. Binary distributions exist at least for Debian, SUSE, Fedora and RedHat Linuxes (Intel and AMD CPUs, at least), for Mac OS X and Windows' 98, 2000, XP, Vista, and 7.

Two and three dimensional plotting is fully supported using gnuplot and an experimental OpenGL backend.

The underlying numerical solvers are currently standard Fortran ones like LAPACK, LINPACK, ODEPACK, the BLAS, etc., packaged in a library of C++ classes. If possible, the Fortran subroutines are compiled with the system's Fortran compiler, and called directly from the C++ functions. If that's not possible, you can still compile Octave if you have the free Fortran to C translator f2c.

Octave is also free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 3, as published by the Free Software Foundation, or at your option any later version.

## Why are the developers planning to replace Gnuplot with an OpenGL backend?[edit]

The development of Octave is committed to being both compatible with Matlab and adding additional features. Toward those ends, the development community has chosen to introduce a native OpenGL backend that supports Matlab handle graphics and its uicontrols. Starting with the 3.8 release, Octave now uses OpenGL graphics by default with FLTK widgets. A Qt OpenGL toolkit is also under development.

There are no plans to remove the gnuplot backend. While a better backend may some day become the new default plotter, the gnuplot backend will still be available as long as our users find it useful.

## How can I cite Octave?[edit]

Octave is free software and does not legally bind you to cite it. However, we have invested a lot of time and effort in creating GNU Octave, and we would appreciate if you would cite if you used.

Run citation at the Octave prompt for details on how to best cite the Octave version you are running. Certain Octave packages also have recommended citations in which case use citation package_name.

Ideally, you should cite the software itself, not a book or manual, like so:

@software{octave, author = {John W. Eaton and others}, title = {GNU Octave}, url = {http://www.octave.org}, version = {4.0.0}, date = {2015-05-27}, }

It is recommended to do so on a first draft submitted. However, some editors may disallow this, in which case you can still make a general reference to Octave in the text, such as:

This work made use of the free software package GNU Octave, and the authors are grateful for the support of the Octave development community.

If a more traditional reference is required, there is also a manual for each Octave release that can be cited:

@book{, author = {John W. Eaton, David Bateman, S\oren Hauberg, and Rik Wehbring}, title = {{GNU Octave} version 4.0.0 manual: a high-level interactive language for numerical computations}, year = {2015}, url = {http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/doc/interpreter}, }

Note that there are two reasons for citing the software used. One is giving recognition to the work done by others which we already addressed. The other is giving details on the system used so that experiments can be replicated. This is just as important, if not more.

For this, you should cite the version of Octave and all packages used, as well as any details of your setup as part of your Methods. In addition, you should make your source available. See How to cite and describe software for more details and an in depth discussion.

## When will feature X be released or implemented?[edit]

When it's ready, sooner if you help. Send us patches if you can. We like patches. If you can't, some developers may be convinced to work on your specific problem for some money.

## How can I get involved in Octave development?[edit]

Be around. Be social. Participate in the help and maintainers mailing lists. Find things about Octave you don't like, and start thinking about how to fix them. Many people who now contribute to Octave first spent several years helping in the mailing list before they started to delve into the code. A good way to learn Octave is to understand the problems other people are having with it, so being helpful in the mailing lists not only helps Octave as a whole, but it also prepares you to be a better Octave contributor.

If you feel ready to dive right into the code, read here and here for guidance. But do not send an email to the mailing lists listing your skills and offering to help. We won't just suggest things for you to do. We lack volunteers and we do need your help, but because of that, we also lack the time to provide good guidance and mentoring. If there is a specific short-term project you would like to work on, say so, and just do it. Then ask for help or advice when you're doing it. It is a lot more important that you do something that you're actually interested on than something we suggested because it only matches your skills.

We also need help with this wiki and the manual. These are also important tasks. The documentation is easy to patch, and the help text for individual functions even more so. Editing this wiki is even easier.

Accurate bug reporting is also very useful. Find and report bugs, making an attempt to diagnose them. Eventually, you will also know how to fix them. If you want to help with bug reports or patches, subscribe to the bug tracker mailing list. You'll get updates on all bug activity, and you can jump in when you see something you can help with.

Look at our Projects and Summer of Code Project Ideas if you need specific inspiration for coding tasks that we would like to get done. See also the list of short projects.

# Licensing issues[edit]

## If I write code using Octave do I have to release it under the GPL?[edit]

The answer depends on precisely how the code is written and how it works.

Code written entirely in the scripting language of Octave (interpreted code in .m files) may be released under the terms of whatever license you choose.

Code written using Octave's native plug-in interface (also known as a .oct file) necessarily links with Octave internals and is considered a derivative work of Octave and therefore must be released under terms that are compatible with the GPL.

Code written using Octave's implementation of the Matlab MEX interface may be released under the terms of whatever license you choose, provided that the following conditions are met:

- The plugin should not use any bindings that are specific to Octave. In other words, the MEX file must use the MEX interface only, and not also call on other Octave internals. It should be possible in principle to use the MEX file with other programs that implement the MEX interface (e.g., Matlab).
- The MEX file should not be distributed together with Octave in such a way that they effectively create a single work. For example, you should not distribute the MEX file and Octave together in a single package such that Octave automatically loads and runs the MEX file when it starts up. There are other possible ways that you might effectively create a single work; this is just one example.

A program that embeds the Octave interpreter (e.g., by calling the "octave_main" function), or that calls functions from Octave's libraries (e.g., liboctinterp, liboctave, or libcruft) is considered a derivative work of Octave and therefore must be released under terms that are compatible with the GPL.

## Since the MEX interface allows plugins to be distributed under terms that are incompatible with the GPL, does this mean that you are encouraging people to write non-free software for Octave?[edit]

No. The original reason for implementing the MEX interface for Octave was to allow Octave to run free software that uses MEX files (the particular goal was to run SundialsTB in Octave). The intent was to liberate that software from Matlab and increase the amount of free software available to Octave users, not to enable people to write proprietary code for Octave. For the good of the community, we strongly encourage users of Octave to release the code they write for Octave under terms that are compatible with the GPL.

## I wrote a program that links with Octave libraries and I don't want to release it under the terms of the GPL. Will you change the license of the Octave libraries for me?[edit]

No. Instead of asking us to change the licensing terms for Octave, we recommend that you release your program under terms that are compatible with the GPL so that the free software community can benefit from your work the same as you have benefited from the work of all the people who have contributed to Octave.

## Why can't I use code from File Exchange in Octave? It's released under a BSD license![edit]

When one downloads code from File Exchange and use it on non Mathworks software (such as Octave), they are violating the Matlab central Terms of Use. While the BSD licenses does allow one to use such code in Octave, it also allows others to further impose restrictions which Mathworks does through the MATLAB Central Terms of Use of their site:

Content submitted to File Exchange may only be used with MathWorks products.—Matlab central, Terms of Use 2iii

It should suffice -- although interpretations of this vary -- to contact the author directly and have them send you the code personally, or download the code from the author's own website, if available.

If you need that code or think that the code is useful, please write the authors asking them to release under a free license. Some examples of letters/email sent to authors can be found in the page Asking for package to be released under GPL: examples.

Feel free to remix and reuse, just make sure you use your name!

# What's new in Octave[edit]

Each new Octave release introduces many new features. The following are a distilled list of the major changes. A complete list of user visible changes can be seen by running news at the Octave prompt, and a full list of changes is on the Template:Filepath distributed with the Octave sources.

## Coming in a future release[edit]

See NEWS on the development branch

## What's new in version series 4.0.X of Octave[edit]

See the complete user-visible changes on the NEWS file.

- First official release of the GUI.
- Release of official windows binaries.
- Experimental support for classdef.
- OpenGL graphics with Qt widgets.
- Several functions for reading, writing, and recording of audio.

## What's new in version series 3.8.X of Octave[edit]

See the complete user-visible changes on the NEWS file.

- Experimental GUI interface.
- OpenGL graphics with fltk widgets.
- Support for nested functions.
- Support for java packages in Octave core.
- Reading and writing of image files vastly extended.

## What's new in version series 3.6.X of Octave[edit]

See the complete user-visible changes on the NEWS file.

- Perl compatible regular expressions
- A profiler has been added.
- Broadcasting enabled for all built-in binary element-wise operators.
- Performance of all m-file string functions has been improved.

## What's new in version series 3.4.X of Octave[edit]

See the complete user-visible changes on the NEWS file.

- Many improvements to native OpenGL plotting
- ARPACK now distributed with Octave
- Indexing optimisations
- FTP objects
- Function handles aware of overloaded functions
- bsxfun optimised for basic arithmetic functions
- Matlab-style ignoring of output arguments using ~
- Many optimisations of the accumarray function
- Sparse matrix indexing has been rewritten for speed
- The pkg command now accepts a -forge option to pull packages directly from Octave-forge

## What's new in version series 3.2.X of Octave[edit]

See the complete user-visible changes on the NEWS file.

- Single precision type
- Experimental OpenGL graphics toolkit to replace gnuplot
- Object orient programming via @class named directories
- 64-bit compilation support
- gzipped files and stream and consequently support of Matlab v7 files
- a fully compatible MEX interface
- imwrite and imread (based on the GraphicsMagick library)
- Lazy transpose

Special treatment in the parser of things like "a' * b", where the transpose is never explicitly formed but a flag is rather passed to the underlying LAPACK code.

## Older releases[edit]

For full details on older releases, see:

# What documentation exists for Octave?[edit]

Besides the current wiki, there are other important sources of documentation and help for Octave.

## What documentation exists for Octave?[edit]

The Octave distribution includes a 650+ page manual that is also distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. It is available on the web at http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/doc/interpreter/ and you will also find there instructions on how to order a paper version.

The complete text of the Octave manual is also available using the GNU Info system via the GNU Emacs, info, or xinfo programs, or by using the doc command to start the GNU info browser directly from the Octave prompt.

If you have problems using this documentation, or find that some topic is not adequately explained, indexed, or cross-referenced, please report it on http://bugs.octave.org.

## Getting additional help[edit]

If you can't find an answer to your question, the help@octave.org mailing list is available for questions related to using, installing, and porting Octave that are not adequately answered by the Octave manual or by this document.

## User community[edit]

To subscribe to the list, go to http://www.octave.org/archive.html and follow the link to the subscription page for the list.

Please do not send requests to be added or removed from the mailing list, or other administrative trivia to the list itself.

An archive of old postings to the help-octave mailing list is maintained on http://www.octave.org/archive.html.

You will also find some user advice and code spread over the web. Good starting points are the Octave Wiki http://wiki.octave.org and Octave-Forge http://octave.sourceforge.net

We also have an IRC chat room, `#octave`

in Freenode.

## I think I have found a bug in Octave.[edit]

“I think I have found a bug in Octave, but I'm not sure. How do I know, and who should I tell?”

First, see the section on bugs and bug reports in the Octave manual. When you report a bug, make sure to describe the type of computer you are using, the version of the operating system it is running, and the version of Octave that you are using. Also provide enough code and configuration details of your operating system so that the Octave maintainers can duplicate your bug.

# How can I obtain Octave?[edit]

## Source code[edit]

Source code is available on the Octave development site, where you are sure to get the latest version.

Since Octave is distributed under the terms of the GPL, you can get Octave from a friend who has a copy, or from the Octave website.

## Pre-compiled binaries[edit]

*See also: Build from source*

The Octave project does not normally distribute its own binaries, but other projects do. For example, Linux and BSD distributions provide by their respective Octave binaries. Windows is a recent exception, in that binaries are available directly from the Octave project (starting from version 4.0). For an up-to-date listing, see:

As of today, Octave binaries are available at least on Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, Suse, and Fedora GNU/Linux; Mac OS X; and Windows (versions 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8).

## How do I get a copy of Octave for (some other platform)?[edit]

Octave currently runs on Unix-like systems, Mac OS X, and Windows. It should be possible to make Octave work on other systems as well. If you are interested in porting Octave to other systems, please contact the maintainers' mailing list .

## How can I install Octave on Android? What is this Octave app in the Google Play store?[edit]

There is an unofficial Octave app available for Android in the Google Play store. Please see Android for more information.

This version of Octave is no longer freely available and has become 'nagware'. This is a sad turn of events.

# Installation issues and problems[edit]

Octave 3.4 requires approximately 1.3 GB of disk storage to unpack and compile from source (considerably less if you don't compile with debugging symbols). Once installed, Octave requires approximately 355 MB of disk space (again, considerably less if you don't compile with debugging symbols, approximately 50 MB).

Check out the page Installation for more detailed information about installing Octave.

## What else do I need?[edit]

To compile Octave, you will need a recent version of GNU Make. You will also need GCC 4.3 or later, although GCC 4.4 or later is recommended.

**You must have GNU Make to compile octave**. Octave's Makefiles use features of GNU Make that are not present in other versions of make. GNU Make is very portable and easy to install.

## Can I compile Octave with another C++ compiler?[edit]

Yes, but development is done primarily with GCC, so you may hit some incompatibilities. Octave is intended to be portable to any standard conforming compiler. If you have difficulties that you think are bugs, please report them to the http://bugs.octave.org bug tracker, or ask for help on the mailing list.

## How do I install *all* Octave packages?[edit]

Do not do it! Really, there is no reason to do this. Octave Forge has many packages for different needs but it's unlikely that you need all of them. The common misconception is that the more packages one installs, the more complete and powerful its octave installation will be. However, in the same way one would *never* install all perl modules, ruby gems or python packages (because it simply makes no sense), one should not install all octave packages. This isn't desirable and it's not even possible.

Packages should be installed and loaded selectively. Note that some packages are meant to shadow core functions changing the way Octave works, and different packages can have different implementations of a function with the same name, leading to unpredictable results. Others are just broken or crappy and will break your system. What's worse, some of the packages are even loaded automatically at startup so you may be screwing your octave installation without even realizing it.

# Coding[edit]

## What features are unique to Octave?[edit]

Although most of the Octave language will be familiar to Matlab users, it has some unique features of its own.

### Functions defined on the command-line[edit]

Functions can be defined by entering code on the command line, a feature not supported by Matlab. For example, you may type:

octave:1> function s = hello_string (to_who) > ## Say hello > if nargin<1, to_who = "World"; end > s = ["Hello ",\ > to_who]; > endfunction octave:2> hello_string ("Moon") ans = Hello Moon

As a natural extension of this, functions can also be defined in script files (m-files whose first non-comment line isn't function out = foo (...))

### Comments with #[edit]

The pound character, #, may be used to start comments, in addition to %. See the previous example. The major advantage of this is that as # is also a comment character for unix script files, any file that starts with a string like #! /usr/bin/octave -q will be treated as an octave script and be executed by octave.

### Strings delimited by double quotes "[edit]

The double quote, ", may be used to delimit strings, in addition to the single quote '. See the previous example. Also, double-quoted strings include backslash interpretation (like C++, C, and Perl) while single quoted are uninterpreted (like Matlab and Perl).

### Line continuation by backslash[edit]

Lines can be continued with a backslash, \, in addition to three points .... See the previous example.

### Informative block closing[edit]

You may close function, for, while, if, ... blocks with endfunction, endfor, endwhile, ... keywords in addition to using end. As with Matlab, the end (or endfunction) keyword that marks the end of a function defined in a .m file is optional.

### Coherent syntax[edit]

Indexing other things than variables is possible, as in:

octave:1> [3 1 4 1 5 9](3) ans = 4 octave:2> cos([0 pi pi/4 7])(3) ans = 0.70711

In Matlab, it is for example necessary to assign the intermediate result cos([0 pi pi/4 7]) to a variable before it can be indexed again.

### Exclamation mark as not operator[edit]

The exclamation mark ! (aka “Bang!”) is a negation operator, just like the tilde ~:

octave:1> if ! strcmp (program_name, "octave"), > "It's an error" > else > "It works!" > end ans = It works!

Note however that Matlab uses the ! operator for shell escapes, for which Octave requires using the system command.

### Increment and decrement operators[edit]

If you like the ++, += etc operators, rejoice! Octave includes the C-like increment and decrement operators ++ and -- in both their prefix and postfix forms, in addition to +=, -=, *=, /=, ^=,.+=,.-=,.*=, ./= and .^=.

For example, to pre-increment the variable x, you would write ++x. This would add one to x and then return the new value of x as the result of the expression. It is exactly the same as the expression x = x + 1.

To post-increment a variable x, you would write x++. This adds one to the variable x, but returns the value that x had prior to incrementing it. For example, if x is equal to 2, the result of the expression x++ is 2, and the new value of x is 3.

For matrix and vector arguments, the increment and decrement operators work on each element of the operand.

### Unwind-protect[edit]

In addition to try-catch blocks, Octave supports an alternative form of exception handling modeled after the unwind-protect form of Lisp. The general form of an unwind_protect block looks like this:

unwind_protect body unwind_protect_cleanup cleanup end_unwind_protect

Where body and cleanup are both optional and may contain any Octave expressions or commands. The statements in cleanup are guaranteed to be executed regardless of how control exits body.

The unwind_protect statement is often used to reliably restore the values of global variables that need to be temporarily changed.

Matlab can be made to do something similar with their onCleanup function that was introduced in 2008a. Octave also has onCleanup since version 3.4.0.

### Built-in ODE and DAE solvers[edit]

Octave includes LSODE, DASSL and DASPK for solving systems of stiff ordinary differential and differential-algebraic equations. These functions are built in to the interpreter.

### Do-Until loop structure[edit]

Similar to the do-while loop in C and C++, Octave allows a do-until loop which does not exist in Matlab

x = 0 do x += 1; until (x == 10)

## How does Octave solve linear systems?[edit]

In addition to consulting Octave's source for the precise details, you can read the Octave manual for a complete high-level description of the algorithm that Octave uses to decide how to solve a particular linear system, e.g. how the backslash operator A\x will be interpreted. Sections Techniques Used for Linear Algebra and Linear Algebra on Sparse Matrices from the manual describe this procedure.

# How do I...?[edit]

## How do I execute an Octave script?[edit]

First of all, make sure you understand the difference between script files and function files. If you want to execute a function defined in a file, just call the function like any other Octave function: `foo(arg1, arg2);`

To execute a script from within Octave, just type its name without the .m extension. Thus, if you have a script called `foo.m`

, just type `foo`

from within Octave to execute it. You have to make sure that the script is in your current path. Type `path`

in Octave to see what this path is, and type `pwd`

to print the working directory (where you're currently standing). The current working directory is referred to as "." in the `path`

.

If the script name has characters that are not valid for an Octave identifier, or if you do not want to use addpath to add the script's location to the current path, you can use the `run`

function instead:

octave> run("Script Name With Spaces.m") octave> run("/opt/local/foo.m")

An alternative is to run the script from outside Octave by calling Octave from your operating system shell. Unlike calling the script from inside Octave, this also allows you to pass arguments from the shell into the script, which the script can access using the `argv`

command:

$ octave the-script.m arg1 arg2

In a Unix environment, if the script has a shebang (e.g. `#!/usr/bin/octave`

) and executable permissions, you can call it like any other Unix program with arguments:

$ ./the-script arg1 arg2

If you call the script from the shell and it's plotting, please note how to plot when running a script from the shell.

## do xxxx?[edit]

You are probably looking for the function *lookfor*. This function searches the help text of all functions for a specific string and returns a list of functions. Note that by default it will only search the first line of the help text (check *help lookfor* at the octave prompt for more). The following example helps to find the function to calculate correlation coefficient in a matrix:

octave> lookfor correlation corr2 Returns the correlation coefficient between I and J. cor Compute correlation. corrcoef Compute correlation. spearman Compute Spearman's rank correlation coefficient RHO for each of the variables sp autocor Return the autocorrelations from lag 0 to H of vector X.

Also, there's a high chance that the function name has a suggestive name, and so you can try auto-completion to get some hints. For the previous example, typing *corr* at the octave promp followed by pressing [Tab] twice would suggest the following:

octave> corr corr2 corrcoef

## How do I erase a figure?[edit]

closeplot(); closefig(number)

## How do I set the number of displayed decimals?[edit]

octave:1> format long octave:2> pi pi = 3.14159265358979 octave:3> format short octave:4> pi pi = 3.1416

## How do I call an octave function from C++?[edit]

- Here is an untested code snippet for calling rand([9000,1]), modified from a post by HerberFarnsworth? to help-octave on 2003-05-01:

#include <octave/oct.h> ... ColumnVector NumRands(2); NumRands(0) = 9000; NumRands(1) = 1; octave_value_list f_arg, f_ret; f_arg(0) = octave_value(NumRands); f_ret = feval("rand",f_arg,1); Matrix unis(f_ret(0).matrix_value());

## How do I change colour/line definition in gnuplot postscript?[edit]

Here is a awk script to get a rainbow colour map

#!/bin/awk -f BEGIN { split("0 4 6 7 5 3 1 2 8", rainbow, " "); split("7 3 1 0 2 4 6 5 8", invraim, " "); } $1 ~ /\/LT[0-8]/ { n = substr($1, 4, 1); if (n == 0) lt = "{ PL [] 0.9 0.1 0.1 DL } def"; else if (n == 1) lt = "{ PL [4 dl 2 dl] 0.1 .75 0.1 DL } def"; else if (n == 2) lt = "{ PL [2 dl 3 dl] 0.1 0.1 0.9 DL } def"; else if (n == 3) lt = "{ PL [1 dl 1.5 dl] 0.9 0 0.8 DL } def"; else if (n == 4) lt = "{ PL [5 dl 2 dl 1 dl 2 dl] 0.1 0.8 0.8 DL } def"; else if (n == 5) lt = "{ PL [4 dl 3 dl 1 dl 3 dl] 0.9 0.8 0.2 DL } def"; else if (n == 6) lt = "{ PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 0.5 0.3 0.1 DL } def"; else if (n == 7) lt = "{ PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 1 0.4 0 DL } def"; else if (n == 8) lt = "{ PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 0.5 0.5 0.5 DL } def"; $0 = sprintf("/LT%d %s", rainbow[n+1], lt); ##$0 = sprintf("/LT%x %s", invraim[n+1], lt); ##$0 = sprintf("/LT%x %s", n, lt); } { print; }

## How do I tell if a file exists?[edit]

Look at functions like exist, file_in_path.. and the other functions that their descriptions point to.

## How do I create a plot without a window popping up (ie, a plot to a file)?[edit]

**This only works with gnuplot as graphics_toolkit, NOT with fltk. See Bug#33180**

figure(1, "visible", "off"); plot(sin(1:100)); print -deps "/tmp/sin.eps"

One can set that behaviour as default:

set(0, 'defaultfigurevisible', 'off');

## How do I make Octave use more precision?[edit]

Octave's default numerical type is IEEE 754 doubles, a.k.a. hardware floats. This type has 52 bits of precision or about 16 decimal digits. It's implemented in your computer's hardware, in your CPU, so it's **fast**. This type is assumed throughout for Octave's calculations.

You can use a few other built-in types. The int64 type will have 63 bits of precision. One bit is used for the sign, but if you don't want to lose that bit, uint64 can be used instead. These types, however, cannot represent numbers as large as the default double type, and can only represent integers. Furthermore, there is no way to represent integer literals, so if you do

```
uint64(18446744073709551610);
```

the literal "18446744073709551610" first gets converted to a double precision type, so `uint64`

's additional precision is lost. Instead, initialise the `uint64`

with smaller numbers and perform a computation to get the larger number you want. E.g.,

```
uint64(999999999999999) * 10000
```

would produce value 9999999999999990000, which is close to the maximum possible value for the uint64 type, but can't be at the moment input directly, doing uint64(9999999999999990000), due to the mentioned error of rounding.

Alternatively, one may use arbitrary precision arithmetic, which has as much precision as is practical to hold in your computer's memory. The *symbolic* package has a vpa() function for arbitrary precision arithmetic. Note that arbitrary precision arithmetic must be implemented **in software** which makes it much slower than hardware floats.

Consider carefully if your problem really needs more precision. Often if you're running out of precision the problem lies fundamentally in your methods being numerically unstable, so more precision will not help you here. If you absolutely must use arbitrary-precision arithmetic, you're at present better off using a CAS instead of Octave. An example of such a CAS is Sage.

# Common problems[edit]

## I am running a script that should produce output during execution but I don't see anything until it has finished[edit]

By default Octave is set to pass its screen output through a pager (usually the default pager is "less") which allows things such as navigating through the output with arrow keys or searching for text or regular expressions within the output. The pager only displays the output after it's finished receiving it, so when it is active you'll not be able to see anything until your script has terminated. To change this behavior temporarily or permanently you may want to use one of the options described here.

## When I try plotting from a script, why am I not seeing anything?[edit]

If you are running an Octave script that includes a plotting command, the script and Octave may terminate immediately. So the plot window does show up, but immediately closes when Octave finishes execution. Alternatively, if using fltk, the plot window needs a readline loop to show up (the time when Octave is sitting around doing nothing waiting for interactive input).

A common solution is to put a pause command at the end of your script.

## How do I get sound input or output in Windows?[edit]

Sound input from a sound card and output to a sound card is fully supported in Octave 4.0.0 and newer in all operating systems. Older versions of Octave had very limited audio support that was essentially Linux-specific. If you have problems with the audio I/O functions using Octave 4.0 or a newer version, please report them on the bug tracker.

## I cannot install a package. Octave complains about a missing mkoctfile.[edit]

You should normally use your distribution's packages. For Debian and Fedora, Octave package **foo** will be a deb or rpm called **octave-foo**, and you should install that instead using apt or yum.

If you really need to build Octave packages from source to install them, you'll need mkoctfile. Most distributions split Octave into several packages. The script mkoctfile is then part of a separate package:

- Debian/Ubuntu: octave-headers or liboctave-dev

- Fedora: octave-devel

## I'm having problem XXX using the latest Octave version[edit]

Please be more specific. What is the latest version, according to you? If you mean the latest released version, be aware that you may still have an older version due to whatever distribution method you're using. There may be a newer version available that you're not aware of due to the distribution method you're using to get Octave, and in most cases, there is a way to get a newer version via your distribution method (see other wiki pages for GNU/Linux, Mac OSX, and Windows).

If you mean the latest Mercurial revision, please specify which one that is. "Latest tip" is not informative, because from the time you wrote "latest tip" to the time someone reads that message, "latest tip" might have changed meaning. Also, you might be standing on a different commit than what "hg tip" says. The tip may be on a different branch, or you might have updated to a different revision different from what "hg tip" says.

Instead, report the output of "hg summary" or "hg id". Also please use hashes instead or in addition to revision numbers. Revision numbers are just a convenience and only make sense in your local repo, and might not coincide with what someone sees on their own repo. Hashes are globally unique across all repos.

If your problem truly persists with the latest version, as indicated here, then by all means report a bug or ask for help, but don't be surprised if volunteers are less inclined to help you with a problem that only exists in an older version of Octave.

## Why is this floating point computation wrong?[edit]

Floating point arithmetic is an approximation **in binary** to arithmetic on real or complex numbers. Just like you cannot represent 1/3 exactly in decimal arithmetic (0.333333 is only a rough approximation to 1/3), you cannot represent some fractions like exactly in base 2. In binary, the representation to one tenth is where the bar indicates that it repeats infinitely (like how in decimal). Because this infinite repetition cannot be represented exactly with a finite number of digits, rounding errors occur for values that appear to be exact in decimal but are in fact approximations in binary, such as for example how 0.3 - 0.2 - 0.1 is not equal to zero.

In addition, some advanced operations are computed by approximation and are not guaranteed to be accurate, see Table-maker's dilemma. Their results are system-dependent.

This isn't an Octave bug. It happens with any program that uses IEEE 754 floating point arithmetic. To be fair, IEEE 754 also specifies decimal floating point arithmetic, which has never seen wide adoption. The reason why Octave and other programs use IEEE 754 binary floats is that they are *fast*, because they are implemented in hardware or system libraries. Unless you are using very exotic hardware, Octave will use your computer's processor for basic floating point arithmetic.

Like death and taxes, rounding errors are a fact of life. You cannot avoid them. You can only move a rounding error from one part of a computation to another, or you can use more precision and delay the rounding error. One way to delay the rounding error is to use arbitrary precision arithmetic, which is inevitably slower as it has to be implemented in software instead of hardware. You may use the vpa function from the symbolic package for this purpose.

Another approach to the problem is interval arithmetic with the Interval package. Then, the exact result would always be enclosed by two binary floats. Again, this is slower since only the most basic interval arithmetic operations can be performed in hardware.

To learn more about floating point arithmetic, consult its Wikipedia article or the classical reference What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About Floating Point Arithmetic.

## I have installed a package but still get a "foo undefined" error[edit]

You have probably forgotten to load the package. Use pkg load package-name to load it. Most packages are no longer loaded automatically to avoid surprises. See reasoning on related FAQ how do I install all Octave packages. If you want a specific package to be loaded by default at startup, consider adding the pkg load command on your .octaverc file.

## Missing lines when printing under Windows with OpenGL toolkit and Intel integrated GPU[edit]

Some windows users with integrated Intel GPUs have reported missing lines when printing with an OpenGL toolkit like FLTK or Qt. #42534

Users with this kind of problem should try to install/update their Intel OpenGL drivers for Windows or consider installing Mesa drivers from http://qt-project.org/wiki/Cross-compiling-Mesa-for-Windows

See also https://www.opengl.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_is_my_GL_version_only_1.4_or_lower.3F

# Porting programs from Matlab to Octave[edit]

People often ask

I wrote some code for Matlab, and I want to get it running under Octave. Is there anything I should watch out for?

or alternatively

I wrote some code in Octave, and want to share it with Matlab users. Is there anything I should watch out for?

which is not quite the same thing. There are still a number of differences between Octave and Matlab, however in general differences between the two are considered as bugs. Octave might consider that the bug is in Matlab and do nothing about it, but generally functionality is almost identical. If you find an important functional difference between Octave behavior and Matlab, then you should send a description of this difference (with code illustrating the difference, if possible) to http://bugs.octave.org.

Furthermore, Octave adds a few syntactical extensions to Matlab that might cause some issues when exchanging files between Matlab and Octave users.

As both Octave and Matlab are under constant development, the information in this section is subject to change.

You should also look at the pages http://octave.sourceforge.net/packages.php and http://octave.sourceforge.net/docs.html that have a function reference that is up to date. You can use this function reference to see the number of octave functions that are available and their Matlab compatibility.

## How is Octave different from Matlab?[edit]

The major differences between Octave 3.4.N and Matlab R2010b are:

### Nested Functions[edit]

Octave has limited support for nested functions. That is

function y = foo (x) y = bar(x) function y = bar (x) y = ...; end end

is equivalent to

function y = foo (x) y = bar(x) end function y = bar (x) y = ...; end

The main difference with Matlab is a matter of scope. While nested functions have access to the parent function's scope in Matlab, no such thing is available in Octave, due to how Octave essentially “un-nests” nested functions.

The authors of Octave consider the nested function scoping rules of Matlab to be more problems than they are worth as they introduce difficult to find bugs as inadvertently modifying a variable in a nested function that is also used in the parent is particularly easy for those not attentive to detail.

### Differences in core syntax[edit]

There are a few core Matlab syntaxes that are not accepted by Octave, these being

- Some limitations on the use of function handles. The major difference is related to nested function scoping rules (as above) and their use with function handles.

- Some limitations of variable argument lists on the LHS of an expression, though the most common types are accepted.

- Matlab classdef object oriented programming is not yet supported, though work is underway in a branch of the development tree.

### Differences in core functions[edit]

A large number of the Matlab core functions (ie those that are in the core and not a toolbox) are implemented, and certainly all of the commonly used ones. There are a few functions that aren't implemented, usually to do with specific missing Octave functionality (GUI, DLL, Java, ActiveX, DDE, web, and serial functions). Some of the core functions have limitations that aren't in the Matlab version. For example the sprandn function can not force a particular condition number for the matrix like Matlab can. Another example is that testing and the runtests function work differently in Matlab and Octave.

### Just-In-Time compiler[edit]

Matlab includes a "Just-In-Time" compiler. This compiler allows the acceleration of for-loops in Matlab to almost native performance with certain restrictions. The JIT must know the return type of all functions called in the loops and so you can't include user functions in the loop of JIT optimized loops. Octave doesn't have a JIT and so to some might seem slower than Matlab. For this reason you must vectorize your code as much as possible. The MathWorks themselves have a good document discussing vectorization at http://www.mathworks.com/support/tech-notes/1100/1109.html.

### Compiler[edit]

On a related point, there is no Octave compiler, and so you can't convert your Octave code into a binary for additional speed or distribution. There have been several aborted attempts at creating an Octave compiler. Should the JIT compiler above ever be implemented, an Octave compiler should be more feasible.

### Graphic handles[edit]

Up to Octave 2.9.9 there was no support for graphic handles in Octave itself. In the 3.2.N versions of Octave and beyond, the support for graphics handles is converging towards full compatibility. The patch function is currently limited to 2-D patches, due to an underlying limitation in gnuplot, but the experimental OpenGL backend is starting to see an implementation of 3-D patches.

### GUI functions[edit]

There are no Matlab compatible GUI functions yet. This might be an issue if you intend to exchange Octave code with Matlab users. There are a number of bindings from Octave to Tcl/Tk, VTK and zenity for example, that can be used for a GUI, but these are not Matlab compatible. Work on a Matlab compatible GUI is in an alpha stage in the QtHandles project, which may form part of a future release of Octave.

### Simulink[edit]

Octave itself includes no Simulink support. Typically the simulink models lag research and are less flexible, so shouldn't really be used in a research environment. However, some Matlab users that try to use Octave complain about this lack.

### MEX-Files[edit]

Octave includes an API to the Matlab MEX interface. However, as MEX is an API to the internals of Matlab and the internals of Octave differ from Matlab, there is necessarily a manipulation of the data to convert from a MEX interface to the Octave equivalent. This is notable for all complex matrices, where Matlab stores complex arrays as real and imaginary parts, whereas Octave respects the C99/C++ standards of co-locating the real/imag parts in memory. Also due to the way Matlab allows access to the arrays passed through a pointer, the MEX interface might require copies of arrays (even non complex ones).

### Block comments[edit]

Block comments denoted by #{ and #} markers (or %{ and %}) are supported by Octave with some limitations. The major limitation is that block comments are not supported within [] or {}.

### Mat-File format[edit]

There are some differences in the mat v5 file format accepted by Octave. Matlab recently introduced the "-V7.3" save option which is an HDF5 format which is particularly useful for 64-bit platforms where the standard Matlab format can not correctly save variables. Octave accepts HDF5 files, but is not yet compatible with the "-v7.3" versions produced by Matlab.

Although Octave can load inline function handles saved by Matlab, it can not yet save them.

Finally, some multi-byte Unicode characters aren't yet treated in mat-files.

### Profiler[edit]

Thanks to Daniel Kraft's 2011 Google Summer of Code project, Octave has a profiler since version 3.6.0. However, at the moment it only produces text output and has its own makeshift interface for hierarchical profiling.

### Toolboxes[edit]

Octave is a community project and so the toolboxes that exist are donated by those interested in them through Octave Forge. These might be lacking in certain functionality relative to the Matlab toolboxes, and might not exactly duplicate the Matlab functionality or interface.

### Short-circuit & and | operators[edit]

The & and | operators in Matlab short-circuit when included in a condition (e.g. an if or while statement) and not otherwise. In Octave only the && and || short circuit. Note that this means that

if (a | b) ... end

and

t = a | b; if t ... end

have different semantics in Matlab. This is really a Matlab bug, but there is too much code out there that relies on this behaviour to change it. Prefer the || and && operators in if statements if possible. If you need to use code written for Matlab that depends on this buggy behaviour, you can enable it since Octave 3.4.0 with the following command:

do_braindead_shortcircuit_evaluation(1)

Note that the difference with Matlab is also significant when either argument is a function with side effects or if the first argument is a scalar and the second argument is an empty matrix. For example, note the difference between

t = 1 | []; ## results in [], so... if (t) 1, end ## in if ([]), this is false.

and

if (1 | []) 1, end ## short circuits so condition is true.

Another case that is documented in the Matlab manuals is that

t = [1, 1] | [1, 2, 3]; ## error if ([1, 1] | [1, 2, 3]) 1, end ## OK

Also Matlab requires the operands of && and || to be scalar values but Octave does not (it just applies the rule that for an operand to be considered true, every element of the object must be nonzero or logically true).

Finally, note the inconsistence of thinking of the condition of an if statement as being equivalent to all(X(:)) when X is a matrix. This is true for all cases EXCEPT empty matrices:

if ([0, 1]) == if (all ([0, 1])) ==> i.e., condition is false. if ([1, 1]) == if (all ([1, 1])) ==> i.e., condition is true.

However,

if ([])

is not the same as

if (all ([]))

because, despite the name, the all is really returning true if none of the elements of the matrix are zero, and since there are no elements, well, none of them are zero. This is an example of vacuous truth. But, somewhere along the line, someone decided that if ([]) should be false. Mathworks probably thought it just looks wrong to have [] be true in this context even if you can use logical gymnastics to convince yourself that "all" the elements of an empty matrix are nonzero. Octave however duplicates this behavior for if statements containing empty matrices.

### Solvers for singular, under- and over-determined matrices[edit]

Matlab's solvers as used by the operators mldivide (\) and mrdivide (/), use a different approach than Octave's in the case of singular, under-, or over-determined matrices. In the case of a singular matrix, Matlab returns the result given by the LU decomposition, even though the underlying solver has flagged the result as erroneous. Octave has made the choice of falling back to a minimum norm solution of matrices that have been flagged as singular which arguably is a better result for these cases.

In the case of under- or over-determined matrices, Octave continues to use a minimum norm solution, whereas Matlab uses an approach that is equivalent to

function x = mldivide (A, b) m = rows(A); [Q, R, E] = qr(A); x = [A \ b, E(:, 1:m) * (R(:, 1:m) \ (Q' * b))] end

While this approach is certainly faster and uses less memory than Octave's minimum norm approach, this approach seems to be inferior in other ways.

A numerical question arises: how big can the null space component become, relative to the minimum-norm solution? Can it be nicely bounded, or can it be arbitrarily big? Consider this example:

m = 10; n = 10000; A = ones(m, n) + 1e-6 * randn(m,n); b = ones(m, 1) + 1e-6 * randn(m,1); norm(A \ b)

while Octave's minimum-norm values are around 3e-2, Matlab's results are 50-times larger. For another issue, try this code:

m = 5; n = 100; j = floor(m * rand(1, n)) + 1; b = ones(m, 1); A = zeros(m, n); A(sub2ind(size(A),j,1:n)) = 1; x = A \ b; [dummy,p] = sort(rand(1,n)); y = A(:,p)\b; norm(x(p)-y)

It shows that unlike in Octave, mldivide in Matlab is not invariant with respect to column permutations. If there are multiple columns of the same norm, permuting columns of the matrix gets you different result than permuting the solution vector. This will surprise many users.

Since the mldivide (\) and mrdivide (/) operators are often part of a more complex expression, where there is no room to react to warnings or flags, it should prefer intelligence (robustness) to speed, and so the Octave developers are firmly of the opinion that Octave's approach for singular, under- and over-determined matrices is a better choice than Matlab's.

### Octave extensions[edit]

The extensions in Octave over MATLAB syntax are very useful, but might cause issues when sharing with Matlab users. A list of the major extensions that should be avoided to be compatible with Matlab are:

Comments in Octave can be marked with #. This allows POSIX systems to have the first line as #! octave -q and mark the script itself executable. MATLAB doesn't have this feature due to the absence of comments starting with #".

Code blocks like if, for, while, etc can be terminated with block specific terminations like endif. MATLAB doesn't have this and all blocks must be terminated with end.

Octave has a lisp-like unwind_protect block that allows blocks of code that terminate in an error to ensure that the variables that are touched are restored. You can do something similar with try/catch combined with rethrow (lasterror ()) in Matlab, however rethrow and lasterror are only available in Octave 2.9.10 and later. MATLAB 2008a also introduced OnCleanUp that is similar to unwind_protect, except that the object created by this function has to be explicitly cleared in order for the cleanup code to run.

Note that using try/catch combined with rethrow (lasterror ()) can not guarantee that global variables will be correctly reset, as it won't catch user interrupts with Ctrl-C. For example

global a a = 1; try _a = a; a = 2 while true end catch fprintf ('caught interrupt\n'); a = _a; rethrow (lasterror()); end

compared to

global a a = 1; unwind_protect _a = a; a = 2 while true end unwind_protect_cleanup fprintf ('caught interrupt\n'); a = _a; end

Typing Ctrl-C in the first case returns the user directly to the prompt, and the variable *a* is not reset to the saved value. In the second case the variable *a* is reset correctly. Therefore Matlab gives no safe way of temporarily changing global variables.

Indexing can be applied to all objects in Octave and not just variables. Therefore sin(x)(1:10) for example is perfectly valid in Octave but not Matlab. To do the same in Matlab you must do y = sin(x); y = y([1:10]);

Octave has the operators ++, –-, -=, +=, *=, etc. As MATLAB doesn't, if you are sharing code these should be avoided.

Character strings in Octave can be denoted with double or single quotes. There is a subtle difference between the two in that escaped characters like \n (newline), \t (tab), etc are interpreted in double quoted strings but not single quoted strings. This difference is important on Windows platforms where the \ character is used in path names, and so single quoted strings should be used in paths. MATLAB doesn't have double quoted strings and so they should be avoided if the code will be transferred to a MATLAB user.

# GUI[edit]

This is a small section but it's probably one of the most frequent questions.

## Does Octave have a GUI?[edit]

Yes! It was officially released with Octave 4.0.0. It was also available since version 3.8.0 has an experimental feature (use the --force-gui option to start Octave).

## Why did you create yet another GUI instead of making one that already exists better?[edit]

None of the GUIs for Octave that had been developed thus far were part of Octave and there is a reason for it. All of them failed at a very important point, integration with Octave. They treated Octave as a foreign black box using pipes for communication. This approach is bound to fail with each new version. Any fix made to make them work with a new Octave versions would only be temporary. This included QtOctave (now abandoned and incompatible with newer versions of Octave), Xoctave (which is proprietary and commercial), and GUI Octave (which was proprietary and no longer available).

Quint was a project for an Octave GUI that actually tried to do it right. Eventually it was merged into the Octave repository and is no longer a separate project. Also, many bits from QtOctave were reused in the GUI.

QtOctave was a great and very useful tool. It looked beautiful and we are
thankful to its developers for working on such a nice tool. However, it
would have *never* been stable as it was. But most of all, the developers
made it free software so we could reuse large chunks of it which were
incorporated in what is now the Octave GUI.