Editing Online Developer Meeting (2022-07-26)

* Date: Tuesday, Jul 26, 2022 @ 18:00 UTC
* Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev

== Today's topics ==

* GSoC progress
** Progress was presented by available mentors. Projects are on track.
** Openlibm project concluded that the approach doesn't work. Valuable negative result!
** libtiff project will probably implement the classdef as an .m file. (At least the constructor, which is hard/impossible to implement in C++ code. It is not a "normal" DLDFCN). Will probably move from dld to core (libtiff dependency).
* When should a new function go to core or load dynamically?
** If the dependencies are already linked into Octave core -> No big benefit to have it dynamically loaded. More sensible to add in core.
** If function loads a big (new) dependency, it might make sense to load it "on demand". --> dldfcn
* VM progress:
** Petter presented updates on his VM. Good progress. But still a lot to do.
** will incrementally move from fork to default branch as an experimental feature with a configure option to disable it.  ** will most likely not be active by default in Octave 8 (either not compiled or de-activated on run-time)
** won't stop the option for alternative VM implementations. Might help to define an "API" for other VM implementations (like Jitter, etc).
* Release process for Octave 7.2:
** About 10 (actual) changes since the last release candidate (about 6 weeks ago). Should we make a second release candidate?
*** No new release candidate. Proceed with a release after some final preparations (e.g., NEWS file).
** Not much feedback for the first release candidate. Should we skip making release candidates entirely and directly make releases? Should we announce them more prominently (e.g., on the web page)?
*** Call for ideas.
* Octave packages progress update
* Managing diversity of libraries (libm, libc etc)
** See [https://octave.discourse.group/t/point-of-openlibm-project-or-if-even-julia-wants-to-shift-away-from-openlibm-do-we-want-to-use-it/2980/  background]
* Octave 7.3 and 8 timeline?

== Previous topics ==

* Octave 7.2
** jwe indicated a release is imminent
* VM updates
** Presentations by mnabipoor and Petter
** Both efforts will move forward
** Need to define VM language
* Fosshost and hosting updates
** Kai presented details of migration and documentation of the migration process
* [https://github.com/gnu-octave/MinusForge MinusForge] to finally move to Octave Packages with <code>pkg install -forge</code>
** Timeline to deprecate https://octave.sourceforge.org.
** Kai presented this new mechanism to obtain "pkg install -forge" functionality for GitHub packages in addition to SourceForge, en route to leaving SourceForge 
* GSOC status/progress check-in
* Follow up on implementing classdef classes in C++
** jwe presented updates on the classdef functionality.

== See also ==

* Next meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2022-08-23)]]
* Last meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2022-06-28)]]

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