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* No "official" announcement happened. Maybe reuse abandoned mailing-lists to announce important events, such as releases. | * No "official" announcement happened. Maybe reuse abandoned mailing-lists to announce important events, such as releases. | ||
* How do distribution maintainers get to know about Octave releases? | * How do distribution maintainers get to know about Octave releases? | ||
** Contact Debian maintainers of the Octave package to maybe improve our communication | ** Contact Debian maintainers of the Octave package to maybe improve our communication. | ||
*** Done, already answered: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/octave-maintainers/2021-07/msg00001.html | |||
=== | === Octave 6.4 / 7 / 8 === | ||
* Discussion how to continue with the development. | |||
** jwe wants to introduce breaking changes (see below). | |||
* Octave should stick with the ~yearly major release cycle | |||
** Probably no Octave 6.4 (only if severe bugs occur). | |||
** Octave 7 (default branch) | |||
*** Should no longer receive "very" breaking changes (e.g. String-class for Octave 8) | |||
*** Has about 305 bugs fixed (not 100% reliable figure) and should not wait another year until many bigger outstanding changes happen (will be deferred to Octave 8) | |||
*** Tentative plan: | |||
**** November 2021 merge default to stable. | |||
**** End of 2021 release of Octave 7 | |||
** Octave 8 (new default branch) | |||
*** No clear decision how to handle very breaking changes until November 2021 merge default to stable. Depends on future needs. | |||
=== Octave 7 / 8 === | |||
* [https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/arguments.html Function argument parsing] (introduced in Matlab R2019b, rather new) | |||
** jwe will continue to work on this feature on Octave 7 (default branch) | |||
** If feature cannot be completed by the end of the year, it will be disabled on parser-level (error), and introduced in Octave 8 one year later. | |||
* [https://octave.discourse.group/t/new-command-window-widget/501? New GUI command widget] | |||
** Possible to introduce it as user opt-in in Octave 7 | |||
** Pending issues: | |||
*** Command-widget does not look like the previous one (textbox for command input) | |||
*** jwe needs better looking widget (avoid developing a new one) | |||
*** No possibility to run external applications (like emacs, pager), which is already partially broken now. Need to implement own paging strategy (scroll bars, etc.) | |||
* Deprecation of Octave operators | |||
** Improve Matlab compatibility | |||
** Some extensions make it painful to implement Matlab compatible command-style function calls? See also the [https://octave.discourse.group/t/parsing-command-style-function-call-syntax/1414/7 discussion] about this topic. | |||
*** Remove rarely used extensions like "**" power. | |||
*** Discussion about removal of "+=", "++", etc. No final decision made. | |||
*** Often used extensions must probably stay (like "!" or "!=" used in place of "~" or "~="). | |||
=== C++ shared pointer / liboctave === | |||
* jwe had a look at Octave own reference counting | |||
* Wish to replace it with C++ shared pointers | |||
* Expert knowledge wanted! jwe opened a [https://octave.discourse.group/t/using-std-shared-ptr-t-to-implement-copy-on-write-objects-in-octave/1436 discussion thread] | |||
* jwe identified "copy expensive" inefficiency about mxArray to octave_value conversion? Root of the trouble lies in historical handling of complex data? See this [https://octave.discourse.group/t/improving-performance-of-data-transfer-to-and-from-mex-functions/1437 discussion]. | |||
== Previous topics == | == Previous topics == | ||
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* <strike>jwe will probably post something on discourse.</strike> | * <strike>jwe will probably post something on discourse.</strike> | ||
* See: [https://octave.discourse.group/t/irc-channel-for-octave/1348 IRC channel for Octave] (on Discourse). | * See: [https://octave.discourse.group/t/irc-channel-for-octave/1348 IRC channel for Octave] (on Discourse). | ||
== See also == | == See also == |