Online Developer Meeting (2020-11-10)
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Todays topics
- Meet and greet 5 minutes before meeting (audio testing).
The future of Octave Packages
- See also Discourse.
Octave Forge - Facts and figures
- https://octave.sourceforge.io/packages.php
- 50 community packages
- 21 external packages
- several unmaintained / renamed packages
- about 5 do not work with Octave 5.2 and about 12 will not work in Octave 6.1 (see link)
- https://sourceforge.net/p/octave/_members/
- 7 admins (only Olaf, Mike and me "active")
- 51 developer (maybe 10 recently)
- 5 request for new packages in the last two years (2 approved).
- Octave Forge is not attractive, why?
The package legacy
Savannah
When reporting an Octave (core) bug on https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=octave you are "greeted" with 1523 open bug reports of which 330 reports (22%) belong to Octave Forge packages and 240 (15%) are older than a year.
- They are not likely to be closed or worked on and leave a maintenance burden and bad impression (user requests for unmaintained packages are ignored there) back to Octave (core).
Ideas:
- Ignore and collect requests to infinity?
- Close bugs of inactive packages older than X years? (Drop the illusion, that someone ever will fix it.)
- Octave Forge suggests to use the Savannah Bug tracker for bug reports. Drop this announcement?
- Reopen the old Octave Forge bug tracker?
MXE-Octave
- The MS Windows installer bundles 47 Octave packages.
- About 26 patches necessary to achieve this.
of-communications-1-catop.patch of-fits-1-cross-fixes.patch of-fits-2-fixes.patch of-fl-core-1-fixes.patch of-gsl-1-cross-fixes.patch of-interval-1-cross-fixes.patch of-ltfat-1-cross-fixes.patch of-nurbs-1-fixes.patch of-nurbs-2-dev-fixes.patch of-ocs-1-cross-fixes.patch of-ocs-2-dev-fixes.patch of-ocs-3-break-fixes.patch of-ocs-4-pkgadd-fixes.patch of-ocs-5-no-odepkg.patch of-odepkg-1-fixes.patch of-odepkg-2-fixes.patch of-odepkg-3-deprecated.patch of-quaternion-1-cross-fixes.patch of-quaternion-2-dev-fixes.patch of-sockets-1-cross-fixes.patch of-sockets-2-deprecated.patch of-specfun-1-deprecated.patch of-statistics-1-cross.patch of-strings-1-fixes.patch of-tisean-1-fixes.patch of-video-1-fixes.patch
- Forced updates to the packages?
- Make criterion to drop package from installer if it no longer compiles "normally" (document somewhere)?
- Document how to request package inclusion in the MS Windows installer (open bug report, Discourse, manual)?
Ideas for next meeting
Topic suggestions
Octave 7
- Not only providing major releases that "fix Matlab incompatibilities".
- Great new features for a great new release.
- Code sprints.
See also
- Next meeting: TBA
- Last meeting: Online Developer Meeting (2020-10-27)