Online Developer Meeting (2025-08-26)
- Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 @ 18:00 UTC Convert timezones here!
- Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev
Today's topics
- Prepare release of Octave 10.3.0? 33 "actual" changes on the stable branch since the release of Octave 10.2.0 (ignoring, e.g., changes to the CI rules or reverted changes), 7 of which are documentation only.
- Any pending changes or bugs that need to be fixed for the stable branch?
- Should Octave be built without debugging code for parser by default?
The debugging code is always there and always enabled. For every statement parsed there is a check on the the parse_debug_flag to see whether debugging information should be printed. But, this is really infrequently used code. I have turned on the debugger in the parser just once in 10 years. To me, this is specialist code that could be enabled by a developer during configuration or with a `-D` option to `cpp`, but ordinary users will never need this.
Previous topics
- Replace the abundant files in
liboctave/operators/
with modern C++ templates? (Seems like use of modern C++ templates might work) Start a Discourse thread on what code pattern to use - Update binutils in Octave for Windows from 2.40 to 2.44 on the release branch of MXE Octave now?
Done by Markus - How to proceed with updating
mod
/rem
. Current implementation gives nonsensical results for large values (bug #45481) and incorrect results forvalues > 2/3 flintmax ()
(bug #67339). Results are also not exactly Matlab compatible for various corner cases (I can't find the exact threshold they are using to determine when something is within round-off error of 0)Arun has fix implemented for bug #67339. Thus, pressing need to resolve other problems with `mod` is gone - The F5 key (save and run code) in GUI is broken in Windows because of the operating system's poor timestamping (bug #67340). This issue has come up repeatedly. Can we resolve it, even with a hack, so that we don't get more complaints and bug reports about it? jwe will look at changing GUI code to have save operation emit a signal when file save has finished. Only then will GUI advance to running the file.
- Should we discontinue
NA
? Implementation relies on bit signature in value that representsNaN
. Not all CPUs seem to respect this.Expand documentation on how to use NA properly. It may not be preserved in numerical context - Availability of hg.savannah.gnu.org for buildbots.
jwe will point buildbots at hg.octave.org instead
See also
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