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* Date: Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 @ 18:00 UTC  '''[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2023&month=2&day=28&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=263&p2=37&p3=248&p4=202 Convert timezones here!]'''
* Date: Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 @ 18:00 UTC  '''[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2023&month=2&day=28&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=263&p2=37&p3=248&p4=202&p5=26 Convert timezones here!]'''
* Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev
* Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev
== Today's topics ==
* Future of buildbot.octave.space: https://octave.discourse.group/t/future-of-buildbot-octave-space/3993
** Current worker will go down some time in March.
** @jwe or @pr0m1th3as will check together with Kai if they could provide hardware that could be used as a replacement worker.
** Minimum requirement for worker: ~ 1 GiB storage per "flavor". "Fast enough" to build all "flavors" in 24 hours.
** Plan is to check @jwe's machine first. If upload speed is an issue, continue to check with @pr0m1th3as' machine.
* Future of packages being maintained at sourceforge.net: https://octave.discourse.group/t/are-there-still-any-maintainers-for-octave-forge/4002
** Package index has already switched to GitHub.
** Documentation is still hosted on SourceForge.
** @pr0m1th3as proposed to suggest maintainer of packages that are hosted on SourceForge to move to GitHub.
** @cbm and @jwe mentioned that we should try to keep the risk of "vendor-lock-in" at a commercial service in mind.
* Octave accepted to GSOC 2023
** Students can apply 20th of March to 4th of April 2023.
** Unclear who is mentoring.
** It was agreed to remove (HTML comment) all projects from the GSoC Wiki page and ask potential mentors to only (re-)add those projects that they are able to see through this year.
* Discourse display and connection issues
** Multiple users have issues connecting to the side or get strangely formatted layout.
** Arun will contact Discourse support desk.
* Octave 8.1
** Decision to release Octave 8.1 shortly.
== Previous topics ==
* Release candidate?
** '''First RC released'''
** '''Discussion about automating release process, which is currently manual and error-prone'''
** '''Discussion about whether we can do continuous delivery: head of stable branch would be the released version. No decision yet.'''
** jwe will announce the availability of the first release candidate with a new thread on the Discourse forum.
* Eliminate doc/liboctave?
** See [https://octave.discourse.group/t/eliminate-doc-liboctave/3849 thread on Discourse forum]
** '''Only 3400 lines, maybe 2700 lines without license text'''
** '''JWE aims for the Doxygen to be stable and helpful, like the Qt docs'''
** '''nrjank will look through files to list any with information worth retaining.''' That information should be moved to inline doxygen comments if it is useful.
* Coding style changes
** '''Discussion on where to add content from wiki. Converged to /etc/<something>.''' Maybe split the current HACKING.md file into multiple files for different categories (e.g., style, release process, ...).
** '''C++: specify void or not. Converged to removing void in code that is not (extern) C.'''
** '''C++: brace initialization lists'''
** '''C++: default member initialization'''
** '''C++: Rule of 3 / Rule of 5, move constructors, move operators, etc'''
* [https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2023 GSOC 2023 timeline]
** Org applications: Jan 23-Feb 7, notified Feb 21 (reapply supposed to be 'easy')
** Contributor proposals: Mar 20-Apr 4, Rankings due 4/27, Selections announced May 4
** '''nrjank will go ahead with preapplication activities: solicit mentor interest from Octave devs, reach out to Nir re application mechanics'''
** '''nrjank will also look into [https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs Google Season of Documentation (GSoD)]'''
== See also ==
* Next meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2023-03-28)]]
* Last meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2023-01-24)]]
[[Category:2023]]
[[Category:Meetings]]

Latest revision as of 16:25, 13 March 2023

Today's topics[edit]

  • Future of buildbot.octave.space: https://octave.discourse.group/t/future-of-buildbot-octave-space/3993
    • Current worker will go down some time in March.
    • @jwe or @pr0m1th3as will check together with Kai if they could provide hardware that could be used as a replacement worker.
    • Minimum requirement for worker: ~ 1 GiB storage per "flavor". "Fast enough" to build all "flavors" in 24 hours.
    • Plan is to check @jwe's machine first. If upload speed is an issue, continue to check with @pr0m1th3as' machine.
  • Future of packages being maintained at sourceforge.net: https://octave.discourse.group/t/are-there-still-any-maintainers-for-octave-forge/4002
    • Package index has already switched to GitHub.
    • Documentation is still hosted on SourceForge.
    • @pr0m1th3as proposed to suggest maintainer of packages that are hosted on SourceForge to move to GitHub.
    • @cbm and @jwe mentioned that we should try to keep the risk of "vendor-lock-in" at a commercial service in mind.
  • Octave accepted to GSOC 2023
    • Students can apply 20th of March to 4th of April 2023.
    • Unclear who is mentoring.
    • It was agreed to remove (HTML comment) all projects from the GSoC Wiki page and ask potential mentors to only (re-)add those projects that they are able to see through this year.
  • Discourse display and connection issues
    • Multiple users have issues connecting to the side or get strangely formatted layout.
    • Arun will contact Discourse support desk.
  • Octave 8.1
    • Decision to release Octave 8.1 shortly.

Previous topics[edit]

  • Release candidate?
    • First RC released
    • Discussion about automating release process, which is currently manual and error-prone
    • Discussion about whether we can do continuous delivery: head of stable branch would be the released version. No decision yet.
    • jwe will announce the availability of the first release candidate with a new thread on the Discourse forum.
  • Eliminate doc/liboctave?
    • See thread on Discourse forum
    • Only 3400 lines, maybe 2700 lines without license text
    • JWE aims for the Doxygen to be stable and helpful, like the Qt docs
    • nrjank will look through files to list any with information worth retaining. That information should be moved to inline doxygen comments if it is useful.
  • Coding style changes
    • Discussion on where to add content from wiki. Converged to /etc/<something>. Maybe split the current HACKING.md file into multiple files for different categories (e.g., style, release process, ...).
    • C++: specify void or not. Converged to removing void in code that is not (extern) C.
    • C++: brace initialization lists
    • C++: default member initialization
    • C++: Rule of 3 / Rule of 5, move constructors, move operators, etc
  • GSOC 2023 timeline
    • Org applications: Jan 23-Feb 7, notified Feb 21 (reapply supposed to be 'easy')
    • Contributor proposals: Mar 20-Apr 4, Rankings due 4/27, Selections announced May 4
    • nrjank will go ahead with preapplication activities: solicit mentor interest from Octave devs, reach out to Nir re application mechanics
    • nrjank will also look into Google Season of Documentation (GSoD)

See also[edit]

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