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* Date: Tuesday, Apr 25, 2023 @ 18:00 UTC  '''[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2023&month=3&day=28&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=263&p2=37&p3=248&p4=202&p5=26 Convert timezones here!]'''
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* Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev
* Location: https://meet.jit.si/octave-dev


== Today's topics ==
== Today's topics ==


GSoC selection?
* Octave 8.2.0 released
** Release process went pretty smoothly.
** If no specific extraordinary motivation, we won't need release candidates for future bug-fix releases.
** @jwe will try to provide existing helper scripts and instructions for release process.
* Coding Community Events
** OctConf 2023?
*** @jwe proposed to do that in the form of a developer summit for a couple of days.
*** @Rik offered to open a poll for dates/venue/... on the discourse forum.
*** Probably, at least 6 months lead time.
** Online coding sprints?
*** Maybe in the form of a loose online meeting for the duration of a weekend?
*** @Rik offered to open a poll for dates/tools/... on the discourse forum.
* GSoC discussion
** Process for evaluation of student applications has started.
** Some promising candidates.
* Possible version 9 projects:
** Qt6 (does that force us to require a C++17 compiler?)
*** Only enablement patches have landed so far. Further integration and bug fixes are still needed.
** new terminal widget
** <tt>arguments</tt> blocks
** improved breakpoint handling
** experimental stack-based virtual machine
** <tt>MException</tt> object
** <tt>string</tt> object (separate from having double-quoted characters create <tt>string</tt> objects)
** HDF5-based <tt>save</tt> and <tt>load</tt> compatible with Matlab's file format
** refactor <tt>octave_function</tt> and classes derived from it
** broadcasting for <tt>sparse</tt>
** make graphics and GUI event processing in the interpreter independent from readline
* Status of Octave Forge
** should the Octave bug tracker continue to be used for reporting bugs in external packages?
*** Propose package maintainers to move to own trackers.
** if not, how can we make it easy to find the location to report bugs for a package/package function?  How do other systems like Python, R, etc., handle this problem?
* Some old bug reports have been closed recently - <b>thanks!</b><br>Current stats by year:
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto"
|-
|  || 2010 || 2011 || 2012 || 2013 || 2014 || 2015 || 2016 || 2017 || 2018 || 2019 || 2020 || 2021 || 2022 || 2023 || total
|-
| Octave || 1 || 16 || 16 || 41 || 79 || 101 || 160 || 129 || 180 || 201 || 132 || 126 || 117 || 54 || 1353
|-
| Octave Forge ||  ||  ||  || 3 || 9 || 19 || 27 || 38 || 28 || 39 || 54 || 44 || 49 || 16 || 326
|}
 
== Previous topics ==
 
* @jwe's server is now set up as a buildbot worker for buildbot.octave.space (Windows nightlies)
** Worker needs to be started manually on reboot. Other than that it is working.
** Upload is slow. Maybe, skip (building and) uploading the .zip archive. Installer and .7z archive are probably enough.
 
* Octave 8.1 released
** Does it make sense to make release candidates?
** Release Octave 8.2.0 with a couple of urgent fixes (see below) probably soon.
 
* Fix for issue with element-wise <code>|</code> and <code>&</code> in <code>if</code> conditions is already pushed to the stable branch.
 
* Issues when writing to streams while converting output
** @arungiridhar already pushed a fix for streams in binary mode to the stable branch.
** Change default to "no conversion" (i.e., UTF-8) when opening streams with <code>fopen</code> without explicitly specifying an encoding. Matlab also defaults to UTF-8 in newer versions. And this might mitigate the encoding issue (at least with default settings).
 
* Symbol visibility for Octave libraries causing issues for some Octave packages?
** Change default to disable selective symbol visibility again.
 
* Internal representation of character arrays in Octave
** @jwe proposed to open a thread on Discourse if we'd like to discuss this.
 
* GSoC 2023
** Application period will start soon.
 
* NumFOCUS
** Go ahead with application (without waiting for feedback from FSF any longer).
 
== See also ==
 
* Next meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2023-05-23)]]
* Last meeting: [[Online Developer Meeting (2023-03-28)]]
 
[[Category:2023]]
[[Category:Meetings]]

Latest revision as of 06:26, 26 April 2023

Today's topics[edit]

  • Octave 8.2.0 released
    • Release process went pretty smoothly.
    • If no specific extraordinary motivation, we won't need release candidates for future bug-fix releases.
    • @jwe will try to provide existing helper scripts and instructions for release process.
  • Coding Community Events
    • OctConf 2023?
      • @jwe proposed to do that in the form of a developer summit for a couple of days.
      • @Rik offered to open a poll for dates/venue/... on the discourse forum.
      • Probably, at least 6 months lead time.
    • Online coding sprints?
      • Maybe in the form of a loose online meeting for the duration of a weekend?
      • @Rik offered to open a poll for dates/tools/... on the discourse forum.
  • GSoC discussion
    • Process for evaluation of student applications has started.
    • Some promising candidates.
  • Possible version 9 projects:
    • Qt6 (does that force us to require a C++17 compiler?)
      • Only enablement patches have landed so far. Further integration and bug fixes are still needed.
    • new terminal widget
    • arguments blocks
    • improved breakpoint handling
    • experimental stack-based virtual machine
    • MException object
    • string object (separate from having double-quoted characters create string objects)
    • HDF5-based save and load compatible with Matlab's file format
    • refactor octave_function and classes derived from it
    • broadcasting for sparse
    • make graphics and GUI event processing in the interpreter independent from readline
  • Status of Octave Forge
    • should the Octave bug tracker continue to be used for reporting bugs in external packages?
      • Propose package maintainers to move to own trackers.
    • if not, how can we make it easy to find the location to report bugs for a package/package function? How do other systems like Python, R, etc., handle this problem?
  • Some old bug reports have been closed recently - thanks!
    Current stats by year:
2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 total
Octave 1 16 16 41 79 101 160 129 180 201 132 126 117 54 1353
Octave Forge 3 9 19 27 38 28 39 54 44 49 16 326

Previous topics[edit]

  • @jwe's server is now set up as a buildbot worker for buildbot.octave.space (Windows nightlies)
    • Worker needs to be started manually on reboot. Other than that it is working.
    • Upload is slow. Maybe, skip (building and) uploading the .zip archive. Installer and .7z archive are probably enough.
  • Octave 8.1 released
    • Does it make sense to make release candidates?
    • Release Octave 8.2.0 with a couple of urgent fixes (see below) probably soon.
  • Fix for issue with element-wise | and & in if conditions is already pushed to the stable branch.
  • Issues when writing to streams while converting output
    • @arungiridhar already pushed a fix for streams in binary mode to the stable branch.
    • Change default to "no conversion" (i.e., UTF-8) when opening streams with fopen without explicitly specifying an encoding. Matlab also defaults to UTF-8 in newer versions. And this might mitigate the encoding issue (at least with default settings).
  • Symbol visibility for Octave libraries causing issues for some Octave packages?
    • Change default to disable selective symbol visibility again.
  • Internal representation of character arrays in Octave
    • @jwe proposed to open a thread on Discourse if we'd like to discuss this.
  • GSoC 2023
    • Application period will start soon.
  • NumFOCUS
    • Go ahead with application (without waiting for feedback from FSF any longer).

See also[edit]

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